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Mikro Tik
#41
No problem - I wonder what configuration went wrong before the factory reset. At least it's working now. Cool

Like my recent experiencing testing a GoMo SIM and similar report on Boards, Eir appears to be traffic shaping now. With my testing, the speed starts off quick and then drops to single digit Mbps.

With your Eir SIM, try downloading the 100MB file from the following test page. With me, the traffic shaping on GoMo is like the Three network where certain hosts get priority such as the Vultr page. You can view the Throughput in Task Manger -> Performance tab -> Ethernet.
https://ams-nl-ping.vultr.com/

Hopefully the 48 speed will improve once you get the SXT mounted outside.
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#42
Hey comsman, read your posts previously and love your enthusiasm for experimenting, ever thought about ham radio or radio experimenters as they’re known in Ireland? Also isn’t it great to have the likes of Sean and others on the internet to spoon feed those (me) that don’t quite get it lol...

Sorry, Sean the site was slow to refresh and I saw Comsman’s post before yours lol

Yeah I’ll try that tomorrow if I get chance but the mrs was starting to get annoyed with me lol so had to put the toys away... I bought the sxt before seeing reviews on the LHG version and it’s not for me but my father who is struggling with internet at the home house. But seriously though thanks for all this
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#43
It's probably the database server under load due to the shared hosting package I'm on.  Earlier today I had to contact Blacknight as the database server was down. 

You can give that Vultr page a test with 48 also.  Three's traffic shaping (which affects 48) varies from one area to another and some masts appear to have no traffic shaping. 

The following gives an example here at this time of posting.  Ookla Speedtest usually delivers in-between actual download rates (~6Mbps) and what Vultr gets:
   
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#44
Thanks Sean,

So, the plan. Going to take down the LHG, mount the iskra, run 2 10m coax to attic connected to Chateau. I'll deselect any bands and let the chateau do it's best with CA.

I'll post the results later in the week. We will see what we see.

Do you think the iskra will be ok... What about wind? It will be mounted on an existing TV mast.
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#45
Update,

Took down the LHG and mounted the iskra. Connected the chateau and did 360 with iskra. Had 2 towers in mind but checked around for curiosity.  Got a good result from one of them B3, B20 CA. 

Speeds are very good, 50-70mbps, almost double what the LHG was getting. You learn something new every day. I will bear in mind what you said about water wicking on the iskra, so if that happens what are the signs?

Connected the B818 then and locked it away, he's very happy. We can WhatsApp video call now, fair play Sean.
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#46
The main symptom of water wicking is a sharp drop in the signal strength, particularly on band 3. With me, the signal would drop from about -100dBm to -120dBm, particularly when it's calm and misty outside where water droplets build up on everything, i.e. I call it the type of weather that makes sheep soggy. Smile

Since shoving a cut up plastic pen between the elements, I haven't had any issue with mist or rain since.
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#47
Soggy Sheep ?, I know the days only to too well. A day for the couch when they do come.

My learnings are that the LHG performs well with strong B3 coverage in the area, drops a little in the evening but not for long and recovers really quickly. However, where the LHG doesn't get really strong band 3, then the log antenna will out perform the LHG.

thanks again Sean.
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#48
I would have thought that the lhg would outperform a log antenna on Band 3 in low signal situations, seeing as it has supposedly 17db gain around that frequency?

I was thinking of getting an lhg lte to replace a log antenna that suffers some signal drops in bad weather. Seems it might not be the best idea considering your results.
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#49
(21/11/2020, 05:50 PM)waveguide Wrote: I would have thought that the lhg would outperform a log antenna on Band 3 in low signal situations, seeing as it has supposedly 17db gain around that frequency?

I was thinking of getting an lhg lte to replace a log antenna that suffers some signal drops in bad weather. Seems it might not be the best idea considering your results.

From my experience of my own home and my dad's, 2 different towers as follows. Where B3 is strong, I get anywhere between 40 and 60mbps. That's good enough by itself. However, where I was only getting 30mbps or thereabouts, it would drop back in the Eve to between 5 and 10. That's still good enough for him as he lives alone. However, when I introduce the log with a cat12 router the band aggregation makes a difference alright. Sean has to be credited with that as he helped me through answering various questions. The LHG is very very good in its own right but it wasn't the same on both installs for me at least. Sean can maybe add his jedi knowledge also. Best of luck in your adventure ?
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#50
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(21/11/2020, 06:07 PM)Comsman Wrote:
(21/11/2020, 05:50 PM)waveguide Wrote: I would have thought that the lhg would outperform a log antenna on Band 3 in low signal situations, seeing as it has supposedly 17db gain around that frequency?

I was thinking of getting an lhg lte to replace a log antenna that suffers some signal drops in bad weather. Seems it might not be the best idea considering your results.

From my experience of my own home and my dad's, 2 different towers as follows. Where B3 is strong, I get anywhere between 40 and 60mbps. That's good enough by itself. However, where I was only getting 30mbps or thereabouts, it would drop back in the Eve to between 5 and 10. That's still good enough for him as he lives alone. However, when I introduce the log with a cat12 router the band aggregation makes a difference alright. Sean has to be credited with that as he helped me through answering various questions. The LHG is very very good in its own right but it wasn't the same on both installs for me at least. Sean can maybe add his jedi knowledge also. Best of luck in your adventure ?

Cheers for the info!  I suppose the only way to find out if it is the same here, is to get one and test it out.
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#51
Maybe Sean can clarify further, what I saw was RSRP neg 80s with 10+ SINR then the dish maintained excellent B3 and was more than adequate, no need for anything else.

Where it was neg 90s 100s it drops back in the evening. EIR & 3.
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#52
(21/11/2020, 05:50 PM)waveguide Wrote: I was thinking of getting an lhg lte to replace a log antenna that suffers some signal drops in bad weather. Seems it might not be the best idea considering your results.
The next time the signal drops, have a look at each LOG antenna to see if there are water droplets wicking between the elements. If there are, these droplets are likely the culprit.

I have a separate thread here that goes into further detail and shows an example of the rain issue I had with mine:
https://confusedbird.com/thread-27.html
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#53
Hi Sean,
currently using Poynting Xpol2 with Chateau, getting 80-120Mbs pointing East at rural 3 mast, 5km. Town mast NW 0.5km nearer is well blocked by my house. Neighbour on 3  gets 1M by night v me 90. They can get 50 by day. Presuming they connect to overloaded town mast, using Huawei B525, getting 5 bar signal by window facing town. Always on cell 380 at home. Set up at neighbour 500m from me facing aerial to rural mast, picked up cell 409 +68, eventually got 380 when went higher. Band 20 was always primary band. There is another mast 13km away in nearly same direction. However even when aerial was fixed, it would change cells. However it did seem to stay connected to 380 rest of evening as speeds stayed up. Had house between aerial and town. SINR around 0 or 2. I am assuming 409+68 are town (1 mast in town centre+1 on hill) . I drove by masts in town with Chateau, picked up cells 409+68, got 9 cell ids in total from 2 masts. I thought each mast had 1 cell id, obviously wrong. The Chateau massively out performed the B525 both connected to the aerial. 
They now want to install an aerial, however I want to be sure it stays connected to cell 380 as others are poor. In our area only other choice is Imagine, lot of people have it few months now and complaints have started, presume too many on mast, which is not uncommon if you look up Imagine on Boards. Therefore people are delighted when they discover there is another option.

My questions are,

1. Why is it picking up mast behind aerial and house (I think)

2. What is the best way of staying connected to 380 (I saw post on cell locking, or would LOG be better)

3. Is each cell id unique to each transmitters on the mast, of which there can be several?

Sorry for the long post and thanks again for advice  Smile


Where is the best place to buy the Chateau? Got 1 in EuroDK for €200 inc del, but took 9 days to come.
It's super kit for the money, had Teltonika RUTX11 costing €320 for a week, testing was few weeks apart but Chateau gets about 20Mbs more. And had to return the Teltonika RUTX11 as would stop working after 5 minutes.
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#54
The signal from the town mast must be very strong for the antenna to continue picking it up from behind. A LOG antenna pair will likely help with the additional forward gain, however, you'll need to a horizontal bar and pipe clamp to mount the two LOG antennae on a pole.

The Chateau can cell lock, so it's the easiest option without having to mount and align a pair of LOG antennae. To Apply a cell-lock to cell ID 380 on band 20 on the Chateau, go into Winbox -> System -> Scripts and add a new item. Give it the name "CellLock" and put the following in the Source field:
Code:
delay 30
interface lte at-chat lte1 input="at+qnwlock=\"common/4g\",1,6300,380"
Go into System -> Scheduler and add a new item. Give it a name like "EnableCellLock", select "startup" for the Start Time and in the "On Event" field, put in "CellLock"

Reboot the router and once it runs the script, it should remain permanently on cell 380 on primary band 20.

Some masts have 3 sectors, each covering a 120 degree arc. If you can see the mast, a telltale sign is 3 x vertical white panel antennae each facing a different direction. As you drive around the mast, your device will pick up a different cell ID depending which sector is in view of it.

I originally purchased my Chateau LTE12 from Amazon for £175, which was EuroDK selling through Amazon at the time. I'm not aware of any cheaper source than EuroDK for this router at present.
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#55
Got the cell lock going, thanks.

Few issues with Chateau since, get this but still works ok.
   


The ethernet ports stopped working, discovered needed to hide the VRF arrow.
Now they are working but if go into ports and OK get this error..need to hide the VRF arrow to get out of it.
   

Decided to order Iskra anyway as panel was my own.
Did a test in their attic with no aerial, while locked to 380, it refused to connect to 380 with no aerial connected.
380 showed -116 to -119 RSRP
Town 409 was -98 to -88 and SINR +12 to +20


Also, when testing an external aerial, is it ok to hand hold it (obviously with a slight shake) or should it be fixed firm?
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#56
Hi Sean, just a FYI - i tried the sxt in my parents house but no luck i'm sad to say. The 48 network was poor with less than 1Mb/s download with maximum signal strength of -100dB, eir had a much better signal at -82 but again poor throughput, vodafone however had a signal of -100 but throughput of 45 to 55 Mb/s, only issue here is theres no cheap option for vodafone mobile BB. Thanks for your assistance on this experiment though.. really appreciate it.
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#57
One possible option with Vodafone would be to use a Vodafone X prepay phone SIM. This has unlimited data, but the speed capped at 10Mbps, but still plenty for most usage including streaming. For example, YouTube only requires about 5Mbps for Full HD streaming.
https://n.vodafone.ie/shop/pay-as-you-go-plans.html

To use that SIM in the SXT, you will need to set the APN to: live.vodafone.com

(27/11/2020, 03:29 PM)Patrick Wrote: Few issues with Chateau since, get this but still works ok.

The ethernet ports stopped working, discovered needed to hide the VRF arrow.
Now they are working but if go into ports and OK get this error..need to hide the VRF arrow to get out of it.
Going by the screenshot, it's running v7.0b6 firmware. I suggest updating it as they are on v7.1b2, which seems to be less buggy from my experience. On mine, the VRF drop-down shows 'main', so they like did some change with this in the newer firmware.

(27/11/2020, 03:29 PM)Patrick Wrote: Decided to order Iskra anyway as panel was my own.
Did a test in their attic with no aerial, while locked to 380, it refused to connect to 380 with no aerial connected.
380 showed -116 to -119 RSRP
Town 409 was -98 to -88 and SINR +12 to +20
That would explain why it keeps trying to use cell 409. It will only lock on to a cell when it has a similar or higher reading, otherwise it's like trying to listen to someone talking at a loud party.

Those Iskra mention a front-back ratio of 23dB, which means that it picks up masts 23dB stronger at the front than in the opposite direction. With those readings, the unwanted mast is up 31dB stronger (strongest -88dBm town cell reading vs the weakest -119dBm rural cell reading), so those antennae will need to be installed such that the house is in-between the antennae and the town mast to try attenuating the unwanted signal as much as possible.

Quote:Also, when testing an external aerial, is it ok to hand hold it (obviously with a slight shake) or should it be fixed firm?
There's no issue with holding the panel antenna as long as there is nothing obstructing the front of it. With the LOG antennas, you'll need something to mount them on to temporarily (such as a tripod) as these can only be held by the clamp, which is difficult to do by hand. The arms of the antenna form part of the signal patch, so if you try grabbing any part of the antenna other than the clamp, it will kill the signal.
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#58
Hi again, does anyone know how to add channel 36 (80 mhz) on 5ghz mikrotik SXTsq - am here trying to extend a friends internet out into a newly built man cave in the back garden but the SXTsq isnt scanning the right frequencies?

RESULT.. had to change the country to India and now its scanning the required channels...
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#59
If possible, try setting the wireless access point to a channel 100 or higher on the 5GHz band. The lower channels (32 to 68) are for indoor use only in Europe, so access points designed for outdoor use generally have these channels disabled for compliance. They are also limited to 200mW power compared to 1W for channels 100 to 144, so setting the main access point to a higher channel within this range may increase its 5GHz coverage also.
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#60
Hi All,

Just wondering if someone can help me with my LHGG LTE6, I had an old pre-configured SXT LTE which was working good, but as always i wanted more speed. So i picked up the LHGG LTE6 from EuroDK. I copied over all the settings from the SXT once i got the password from the company that supplied it (some which i was surprised with, firewall off, NAT off).

Anyway, the SXT was pointed at the Town mast 2km away, but lots of obstructions, hill, houses, trees and plenty of evening congestion. So i setup the LHGG to a different mast in the countryside about 3km away (different direction to the town mast) but it has a clear line of sign, not even a tree between the mast and LHGG.

My problem is stability of the connection, the primary band is B3, CA is B20. But every few minutes its like the CA band drops and i get very high pings to 8.8.8.8 and even timeouts. If i switch off B20 on only select B3 then the connection seems fine, well a lot better anyway. DL is around 40 to 50 and UL is around 35 to 45.

Band 3 Only (most stable)
B3@20Mhz earfcn: 1700 phy-cellid: 19
RSSI: -40dBm
RSRP: -69dBm
RSRQ: -10dB
SINR: usually 8 to 13dB
CQI: 12

With Band 20 on as well (high pings and timeouts very often)
B3@20Mhz earfcn: 1700 phy-cellid: 19
B20@10Mhz earfcn: 6300 phy-cellid: 173
RSSI: -47dBm
RSRP: -78dBm
RSRQ: -8.5dB
SINR: 18dB

Any info on what could be wrong would be appreciated.
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