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RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Meritez - 12/02/2023

(10/02/2023, 11:04 PM)chrisshan Wrote:
(10/02/2023, 03:22 PM)waveguide Wrote:
(08/02/2023, 11:42 AM)Meritez Wrote:
(07/02/2023, 02:12 PM)waveguide Wrote: I installed it into an LHGG-LTE6 which has the gigabit port. It has been working well since. I was looking at the Cat 18 LHGG, but I think I will wait until there is a 5G model available. (Whenever that is)

The LHGG-LTE18 has an m.2 slot and a R11mL-EG18-EA, this could be replaced with the R11mL-RG502Q-EA or similar

RM500U-CN looks tempting:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005004558665991.html

Yeah, that would be a nice replacement in an LHGG. Are you going to buy one and test it out for us? Smile  The EM12-G I have installed is doing quite well. I couldn't justify changing it for a while.  I am not even sure my local mast has 5G enabled on it yet.  I don't understand why Mikrotik haven't released an LHGG device with 5G yet?

I've got a LHGG and want to order an RM502Q for 229usd or the RM520N for 205usd. would have it in a few weeks and will post my results. can't decide which modem to buy, anyone got a preference?
What 4g and 5g bands are in your area?

It's been ordered but not shipped ?


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - chrisshan - 13/02/2023

(22/11/2022, 09:15 PM)Seán Wrote: The EP06-E arrived, taking exactly 3 weeks from the date of ordering on AliExpress.  Installing it however was more tedious than I anticipated, but at least it works. Big Grin 

[...]

Sean, out of the 3 coxial points on the EP06-E, which 2 did you use? On my EP06-E i have M1 D2/G and D1.. I've got AUX and MAIN on the R11e-LTE... Can you help with the correct setup?

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btw, the lhg is on ros 7.7, and not showing automatically. did you need to run something or how did you get alien modem to show? NOTE: I had to restore to factory defaults for it to show. 

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Sidenote: running my EP06-e on this firmware, is this the latest? If not where would i source and what is best way to flash it?
EP06ELAR04A04M4G


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Seán - 13/02/2023

I used the M1 and D1 coaxial connections. The D2/G appears to be for GPS only, which is not required.

With mine, the modem automatically appeared when I manually updated the MikroTik firmware. I cannot remember if I performed a factory reset, however, I never had any configuration other than the APN as I just used the LHG for testing purposes.

When I last tried with the LHG about a month ago during a test set up, I recall it saying that the Router OS firmware utility does not support this modem, so I think the firmware can only be updated a PC using a USB to M.2 adapter. I don't have one, so mine is still on the original factory firmware.


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Meritez - 13/02/2023

DFOTA firmware does exist for the ep06:
https://forums.quectel.com/t/ep06-e-dfota-delta-firmware/18409/9


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Seán - 21/06/2023

The recent thunderstorms blew out the phone line and Vodafone router at my workplace, so I brought in my LHG with the EP06-E to provide temporary Internet access. One thing's for sure, it's a night vs day improvement over the 8Mb DSL connection, especially the uplink, i.e. 0.5Mb vs 40Mb! Another reason I brought it in due to something in the area over the past few months is causing havoc with local 3G and 800MHz 4G signals, rendering a mobile hotspot unusable, i.e. one moment everything is fine and next thing data becomes unusable and anyone on a mobile call gets terrible interference or cut off. My guess would be someone operating a dodgy mobile repeater that is intermittently oscillating (like microphone feedback from a PA speaker). As the LHG has a tight beam on the high frequency bands, I could aim it at a distant Eir mast operating on bands 1 and 3 to avoid the interference and had a stable fast connection throughout the day.

While setting up, I tried a few CA combinations with the Eir prepay SIM and found that the EP06-E does not appear to support Band 1+3 CA, at least not with Eir. It would aggregate either band with band 28 fine. With just bands 1 and 3 enabled, it connected on band 1 only.


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - chrisshan - 21/06/2023

(21/06/2023, 08:35 PM)Seán Wrote: The recent thunderstorms blew out the phone line and Vodafone router at my workplace, so I brought in my LHG with the EP06-E to provide temporary Internet access.  One thing's for sure, it's a night vs day improvement over the 8Mb DSL connection, especially the uplink, i.e. 0.5Mb vs 40Mb!  Another reason I brought it in due to something in the area over the past few months is causing havoc with local 3G and 800MHz 4G signals, rendering a mobile hotspot unusable, i.e. one moment everything is fine and next thing data becomes unusable and anyone on a mobile call gets terrible interference or cut off.  My guess would be someone operating a dodgy mobile repeater that is intermittently oscillating (like microphone feedback from a PA speaker).  As the LHG has a tight beam on the high frequency bands, I could aim it at a distant Eir mast operating on bands 1 and 3 to avoid the interference and had a stable fast connection throughout the day.

While setting up, I tried a few CA combinations with the Eir prepay SIM and found that the EP06-E does not appear to support Band 1+3 CA, at least not with Eir.  It would aggregate either band with band 28 fine.  With just bands 1 and 3 enabled, it connected on band 1 only.
1+3 CA not available on ep06-e on any network. Just 1+20 or 1+28 or 3+20 or 3+28


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - xristostsilis - 15/07/2023

Hi!

I am new here. I live in Greece and i am a happy owner of a Chateau 5G plus i have bought a T99W175 modem that i am currently using in a diy 5G router in a thin client that i created with the help of a friend.

So i was just searching online and reading forums and i decided to pull the trigger and buy an LHGG CAT6 with the hope that in the future i will be able to upgrade the internal modem to support 5G.

I am planning to test the device with the modem i have but i would like your opinion on whether it is safe to try that (i don't want to break a new machine) and whether that would work. I know QUECTEL modems work fine but they are crazy expensive. The modem i got only cost me 50-60€


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Seán - 15/07/2023

From a quick look at MikroTik's supported peripherals page it does not list this model, however, it is worth trying to see if it works particularly as it uses the same Snapdragon X55 as other 5G modems that MikroTik supports. The most likely issue to occur is possibly not showing signal readings or missing functionality such as the ability to lock bands. The worst case scenario would be it not showing up at all, but should not cause any harm, much like installing a PCIe card in a PC without a suitable driver to use it.

One thing to beware of is that you will need to attach all 4 antenna ports on the modem to avoid possible damage from the modem attempting to transmit on a detached antenna port. The LHGG dishes have two U.FL antenna connections, so you will need two additional antennas (e.g. U.FL to SMA pigtails) for the other two ports.


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - xristostsilis - 17/07/2023

(15/07/2023, 08:46 PM)Seán Wrote: From a quick look at MikroTik's supported peripherals page it does not list this model, however, it is worth trying to see if it works particularly as it uses the same Snapdragon X55 as other 5G modems that MikroTik supports.  The most likely issue to occur is possibly not showing signal readings or missing functionality such as the ability to lock bands.  The worst case scenario would be it not showing up at all, but should not cause any harm, much like installing a PCIe card in a PC without a suitable driver to use it.

One thing to beware of is that you will need to attach all 4 antenna ports on the modem to avoid possible damage from the modem attempting to transmit on a detached antenna port.  The LHGG dishes have two U.FL antenna connections, so you will need two additional antennas (e.g. U.FL to SMA pigtails) for the other two ports.

Thanks for the reply. If i try it i will post here how it went.

i also talked with MT and this is their "not so smart" response:

"Hello, Mentioned modem won't fit into LHG because LHG has mini pcie modem slot, bet mentioned T99W175 modem has M2 slot."

I replied to them that i plan to use an adapter...

Now i have some more questions:

I want to understand something. With the internal modem of the LHGG CAT6 can i at least do CA with B3 + B7? I've read that the only option is Β20 + (any other band) which if true, it sucks..

About the upgrade again, i also found a fibocom f350 but it also is not on the supported modems on mikrotiks website. However they do list the Fibocom f150 which is very similar, also 5g but tripple the price..

They do also support the "Dell DW5821e" which is 90% similar to the T99W175 so i'm very skeptical here..

I just found the Dell DW5821e-eSIM on a very good price (cat16 lte). Should i buy it? I am worried about the esim. I want to use a physical sim on my lhgg

I could also go with this quectel but it's expensive

supported modems


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Seán - 17/07/2023

The LHGG CAT6 modem is the R11e-LTE6. It can combine B3+B7 and also two of the same band, e.g. B3+B3 or B7+B7. It does not support the B1+B3 combination which is common here in Ireland with the wide deployment of masts operating band 1 and 3. The list of the carrier combinations is in this document. This modem however has very poor performance on band 20 based on my experience and lacks band 28 that is also widely deployed in Ireland.

The Fibocom FM350 is based on the MediaTek T700 chipset, whereas the Fibocom f150 is based on the Qualcomm SDX55. Unfortunately the FM350 does not appear to work at all with MikroTik, at least not going by this post on the ISP Review forum. It's a pity as I really wish MikroTik would offer support for even any MediaTek based 5G m.2 modem that can be purchased separately, especially as MediaTek is able to sync with further away 5G carriers than Qualcomm.

I would avoid any eSIM specific modules as there is a risk these may not work with an external SIM card, unless it specifically mentions dual SIM (physical + eSIM) support. From a quick search, I've also found reports of users reporting the Dell modems being FCC locked such as here, which is where the modem is locked to specific device for FCC certification to supply the US market.


RE: Mikrotik LHGG LTE6 - Modem update - Kalidupakid - 28/07/2024

(06/11/2021, 05:07 PM)Eagle Wrote: I have two of them I no longer use, they were horrible performance wise and completely unusable for gaming. Bought the second one to rule out a hardware issue but they both had the same problems...  So many issues, I might hook them up and update them and sell them both.  What would you sell them for do you think?

Hi I know it's a very long time since your post, but I wondered if you still had the lte6s. Ours has gone down       john